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[Daniel Westfall]

SFA just took out Skull Mountain, or will be soon. So, there is more than enough room there.

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I don't really agree with saving something that was the first of its kind unless you are saving it in a museum. If it's no longer something that draws people to the parks then it's not serving its purpose and it should go.

SFA shouldn't be a dumping ground for SFGAdv, SFGAm, and SFMM rides that are past their prime. Not that I love the park, but stuff like that just irks me. If it's bad enough a flagship park needs to get rid of it, then get rid of it. Don't pawn it off on some other park. That's my opinion.

[Thunderhead]

Iron Wolf is a stand-up Daniel. Now we just wait to see what SFA does.

[Daniel Westfall]

I see that now...for some reason I forgot to even look at that (yes, I feel dumb right now).

We'll have to see how this plays out, but if SFA does get this dumped on them I'll just be mad for "ethical" reasons. I think turning SFA into a dumping ground is wrong.

[Vater]

Wrong? People complain that SFA never gets anything, now rumors point to them getting a coaster (the first in a decade) and it's wrong? As someone who hasn't set foot in the park in 8 years, I'm actually looking forward to going back and riding Iron Wolf (assuming the rumors pan out). There are people that like it even now. If it gets new trains (as more rumors suggest) and paint, and is reassembled in a new location, it could be a better ride much like Green Lantern at SFGadv seems to have become. And the locals--most of whom won't have a clue it's a relocated coaster--will eat it up.

[Mike Strobel]

Yeah, relocating coasters isn't quite a new concept to Six Flags. They went through the interesting ride rotation program in the 90's, which partially made sense, but that's a discussion for another day. Anyhow, this relocation, contrary to what most people think, actually makes sense to me. Hopefully Six Flags will spruce up the ride for SFA, which means they'll be getting a decent ride while Six Flags keeps costs down (remember they've still have a massive debt to pay off), and at the same time, you open up a HUGE space at SFGAm for a heck of a ride there. You could fit quite a lot of great things in Wolfie's spot. SFGAm hasn't had a big thrilling coaster in nearly a decade, and space is a bit of a premium there (at least to me after seeing some overhead shots of the park).

[Daniel Westfall]

Again, if the fans at SFGAm were just bored with it and wanted something new...sure, no problem. But that doesn't appear to be what's going on here. Everyone I've talked to from the area (including several staff members here) say that it's extremely rough to the point of being painful, and they look forward to it leaving.

Given those statements, unless they do a lot of rehab to it when they take it apart and put it back together, then I wouldn't consider myself fortunate to get it. It just doesn't look or feel right to me (again, my personal feelings). Yes, it fills a gap that SFA has, and, yes, it was "the first of its kind," but that doesn't automatically make it good or "re-ridable."

I'll leave it up to the SFA patrons to decide whether they got a "treasure" or "trash" though.

[biZarRo]

Does anyone know if the ride is going to be rethemed at all? I'm not exactly sure where Skull Mountain was in the park, as I haven't been there, but is it close to their dc comics section, where SROS and Joker's Jinx are?

[Coasterholic14]

Given those statements, unless they do a lot of rehab to it when they take it apart and put it back together, then I wouldn't consider myself fortunate to get it. It just doesn't look or feel right to me (again, my personal feelings). Yes, it fills a gap that SFA has, and, yes, it was "the first of its kind," but that doesn't automatically make it good or "re-ridable."

See the relocation of Stealth to Carowinds (BORG/Nighthawk) for more details and support.

[Vater]

Does anyone know if the ride is going to be rethemed at all? I'm not exactly sure where Skull Mountain was in the park, as I haven't been there, but is it close to their dc comics section, where SROS and Joker's Jinx are?

No one knows for sure if it's even coming to SFA yet.

[Daniel Westfall]

That's true, I meant to emphasize that in my post earlier and think I forgot to. Right now everything is just rumors, and even when everyone was SURE Chang was going to SFGAm last year it ended up going to SFGAdv instead, so, we'll just have to wait and see what happens with Iron Wolf.

I'll tell you what, Vater. IF it comes to SFA and IF they do a Media Day for it, I'll definitely keep you in mind for going for us. Sound like a deal?

[Ryan Shrout]

Adding IW to SFA would be a great addition to the park. Especially with SF's new way of updating rides with new paint, themes, and effects. I think it will be a low cost way to effectively bump park attendance. I also feel this could be a test to see if there's any life left there for the park. Its low risk in that if this doesn't boost park attendance, its a ride that would have otherwise headed to the scrap pile anyway. I love the ride, but I'm excited for something new to potentially take its place. We've gone nearly a decade without a big new thrill.

[Vicarious Chair]

It'd be a great addition... if it had swapped out the standup trains with floorless ones.

[Tyler M]

Again, if the fans at SFGAm were just bored with it and wanted something new...sure, no problem. But that doesn't appear to be what's going on here. Everyone I've talked to from the area (including several staff members here) say that it's extremely rough to the point of being painful, and they look forward to it leaving.

Given those statements, unless they do a lot of rehab to it when they take it apart and put it back together, then I wouldn't consider myself fortunate to get it. It just doesn't look or feel right to me (again, my personal feelings). Yes, it fills a gap that SFA has, and, yes, it was "the first of its kind," but that doesn't automatically make it good or "re-ridable."

I'll leave it up to the SFA patrons to decide whether they got a "treasure" or "trash" though.

I go to SFGAm about 5 times a year and I didn't get bored of it because it was the only coaster I haven't been on more than 10 times there. I skip it every year I go because of how bad it is. The drop, loop, and turn around isn't bad but the corkscrew and everything after just jerks your head in the harness. It's about time it's leaving.

[Vater]

I'll tell you what, Vater. IF it comes to SFA and IF they do a Media Day for it, I'll definitely keep you in mind for going for us. Sound like a deal?

Sure, that could be possible depending on the timing.

[Daniel Westfall]

I'll tell you what, Vater. IF it comes to SFA and IF they do a Media Day for it, I'll definitely keep you in mind for going for us. Sound like a deal?

Sure, that could be possible depending on the timing.

Awesome! I look forward to that day (should it come), and possibly for other events in the area too if you are interested. You just let me know where you can go and when, as I know you have lots of considerations.

[Tyler M]

I'm going to the park tomorrow so I'll let you guys know how Wolf is and if I see anymore markings around SWF area. I've also heard the park discounted all merchandise of Iron Wolf by 50%.

[CoasterBGW]

I'm going to the park tomorrow so I'll let you guys know how Wolf is and if I see anymore markings around SWF area. I've also heard the park discounted all merchandise of Iron Wolf by 50%.

Let me know if the blue print posters are on sale (and if they still have them). I am heading to the park on Monday.

[Tyler M]

I'm going to the park tomorrow so I'll let you guys know how Wolf is and if I see anymore markings around SWF area. I've also heard the park discounted all merchandise of Iron Wolf by 50%.

Let me know if the blue print posters are on sale (and if they still have them). I am heading to the park on Monday.

Ok, I will. From what I've heard only the AE blueprints are currently being sold as of yesterday. I'll check to see if any Wolf ones are still available.

UPDATE: Matt, I sent you a PM. Iron Wolf is just as bad as I remember and I even went to the front row.

[Bretten Bailey]

I don't know if we'll be seeing a new coaster in 2012...seems to be way too early. Especially with "Iron Wolf" not beginning the tear down process until September 6th at the earliest.

I will be making it over to the park in the next few weeks to get my final rides in on "Iron Wolf"....she may be rough, but I will be sad to see her go (and if merchandise is 50% off...I will definitely get some "Iron Wolf" swag).

[Tyler M]

^Hurry on over. I bought the 3rd to last Wolf blue print poster for $15 and a T-shirt for only $8 but they are leaving fast.

I still think we will see a big attraction in 2012. The coaster might not even go in Wolf's spot and the demolition doesn't take too long for Wolf. Plus SFGAm in the past didn't start building larger rides including coasters until late. Track for Superman didn't arrive until close to October in 2002.

Rumors are saying it's a B&M Wing Rider and SF recently trademarked X-Flight. That name sure goes well with a wing rider but I don't know if we will see one next year. I see something in the former spot of SWF and GAR where there are currently big piles of broken concrete.

[steel-Rock]

SFGA was the last park that I went to on my most recent trip. Basically I just got back. It was the high point
of that vacation. American Eagle, Batman: The Ride, Raging Bull, Viper, and Whizzer should not be missed.
Even though there are better Arrow's than Demon, better clones of Superman-UF, and better twisted impulse
shuttles than V2, they were good additions also. With nice water rides and some good dry thrill rides, this park
is fully loaded. I don't think that we will miss a 20 year old B&M stand-up. (It was the first one of its kind and
the first ride by that builder, so the history is kind of cool.)

[Tyler M]

This is the most profitable Six Flags park and yet no where near the largest in the US. SFGAm really needs not just one, but two roller coasters in the near future. There is plenty of room where SWF and GAR used to be and if they take out the unused amphitheater in Yukon, that gives you plenty of room in Wolf's spot as well. There has to be a new flat ride coming soon of course.

The park has wonderful coasters but very few good flat rides. The only flat rides of actual quality are probably Giant Drop and King Chaos (excluding the water rides). The rest are basically scramblers and stuff you would find at a carnival. Condor isn't so bad I guess but a new quality flat is needed such as an S&S swing. With that said, I do see Richochet going soon and maybe something to put in Trailblazer's old spot.

Anyways, back to the 2012 attraction. According to SFGAm World's reports, there are orange marking around the arcade that happens to be conveniently located right off the path next to the SWF/GAR's open spot is. Could this be where the station or queue building is going for a new coaster?

[steel-Rock]

^ Ok, you live 70 miles from SFGAM, so you are its expert. Please tell us what you think of Revolution. Your falt ride comment made me think of that. Also, in guessing that you have had a chance to ride American Eagle backwords, I would like to know your opinion on that too.

In getting back to the park's future, I should say that while in line for Superman-UF, an employee and first time coaster rider said that they heard from the company that Iron Wolf is totally being broken down and that it is being replaced with a "major coaster".

[Tyler M]

^I rode AE backwards back in 2004 but didn't remember it that well. The year after they got rid of that feature (late 2005). I got a chance to ride it backwards again last week and it was without a doubt the best ride on Eagle I've ever had on over 50 rides on it in the last 5 years. It seemed very smooth (for a wooden coaster) and not quite as shaky on the bottom of the drop as it normally is. The drops grabbed you by surprised as if I've never been on it before and seemed much faster than normal.

Revolution is one of my least favorite flats at the park. The seats are extremely uncomfortable with your head almost facing downward the majority of the ride and not much room from the people beside you. On say Maxair the people face outwards which gives you more freedom but with this facing inwards you are very restricted. I've been on it three times and never plan to ride it again as it doesn't provide much air either.

With Wolf leaving in a couple weeks we should start seeing some construction equipment move in which will inform us where the new ride will be. Will it go in Wolf's current spot or the big SWF/GAR spot? Other than what ride it will be, the location is one of the biggest questions.

[Ryan Shrout]

Allegedly park staff are saying that IW is going to the scrapyard; corporate has deemed it to be un-salvageable. Given its relatively late closing, if we get a replacement in 2012 it will most likely be a copy of SFMM's Green Lantern: First Flight. Personally I would rather have to wait till 2013 for a much large coaster, potentially that DM we've been wanting for so long. But I think SFMM will probably go the first route, putting in a new thriller that's cheap and will get a quick ROI. If you want to read more of my in depth thoughts on this issue, check the SFGAm Future thread were I expounded a little bit more.