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[HuLK]

Hey, I just had an Idea for a new coaster train. Ok, its a floorless seat one acroos. So One seat per row, and there would be about 10 cars. Lol, I think it would be cool, Front seat, no one next to you, so room for arms on both sides. because that is somthing that annoys me if I cant put my arms up cause of the harness next to me or somthing. Thats just one of my Ideas, any body else have some cool new coaster train design?

[ChrisPS]

I think that is a cool idea I think there should be a new floorless coaster car with wider seats and more room to put your arms up.

[Devin Olson]

Looking at a blueprint of a B&M floorless train, it does look like riders are pretty close together. But if it were only 1-abreast, that would mean that every rider (minus the front seat) would have a row connector between their legs. Plus there's capacity to consider.

Arrow was looking into a 'super train' concept a while back (before the bankrupcy), which would have had 20 or so rows to a train, not sure what happened with that...

[Hobodog]

First, capacity. Second, Capacity. Third, Capacity.


Now responding to the super train comment. The physics of it would severly change how coasters worked. Because of how the inertial momentum was transiting there would be points of extreme discomfort as part of the train surged up a hill and the back slowed down before getting to it. It would have to be designed to reduce Gs because as the train went over the crest of a hill the back would be accelerated to such a high speed that it could become very uncomfortable as the trained 'whipped' over the hill.

[HuLK]

Now that would be somthing. The back would be awsome to ride in, if they could make it work. I think they should make somthing Like that except, maby a little smaller, like 15 or somthing, because that could reduce the wait in line, or not.

On another note, just an idea, how about an inverted coaster, No inversions, just high banked curves, drops and stuff, but instead of an Over the shoulder restraint, A lap bar? I dunno, an idea, if it worked I think would be cool, lol

[nitro_ownz_u]

that would be cool, but capacity would be bad

[Oneofakind0490]

That would be cool but like nitro_ownz_u said it woul;d have very bad capacity.

[Devin Olson]

Yes, I don't think that the super train idea would be too feasible unless it was being used on a fishook-like ride or some other layout where you wouldn't really have to deal with the intensified 'whip' effect. But I thought that it was interesting that a manufacturer was actually considering that. I don't know if they still are; probably not.

[danktoker]

I also thought about something somewhat like that. There would still be more than one seat in each row but, they would be seperated far enough so that you feel all alone, and you wouldnt be sitting on anything, you would simply be held in against a board and strapped into a harness, that way you feel like you arent on a train, you feel like you are just floating above the track. (probably impossible though)

[Devin Olson]

Something simple like bicycle seats strapped to a track then?

Once again, the aforementioned problem with a 1-abreast train would be capacity, although it has been done before (on a Vekoma coaster named Roller, and bobsleds if you count those). And that might a pretty lonely ride as well.

[Devin Olson]

I personally don't believe that trying to incorporate fear into an experience is what it's about... Fear isn't any part of a ride for me. It's all about the thrill factor, the surprise factor, the fun factor...

And on top of that, it's cool to have someone next to you to share the experience with you, and sometimes other peoples' reactions are half of the fun.

[Hobodog]

Yes. The big part of a coaster is thrill...the fear factor just irritates me. I like to be in awe of a coaster not put into fits by it.

[danktoker]

Yeah but, havent you ever come upon a coaster that made you nervous and cause your stomach to knot up in fear? When you got off, didnt you feel really good about what you just survived? Thats a feeling I am sure everyone would enjoy, overcoming a fear and then facing it without question every time you get back in line and on the ride. I'm not saying the thrill is a bad thing, I love the thrill, but you get the same kind of adrenalin rush from being scared. Its the same reason why people go into haunted mazes every year on Halloween, to gain an adrenalin rush and a thrill. (sorry about the spelling)

[Devin Olson]

I respect that, Danktoker. Personally, I despise fear in any shape or form. I would go into a haunted house for the surprise factor, not the fear factor. I like the feeling of accomplishment trying to break your personal record of most rides in a day rather than just feeling that 'surviving' a ride is an accomplishment.

Fear is a choice more than anything. I enjoy rides from a completely different perspective here.

[danktoker]

Well the surprise factor and the fear factor are pretty much the same thing. Also, people wouldnt have toget on the ride if they were too scared. I also love going onto a coaster for a thrill, there is nothing a love more than a huge adrenalin rush, but fear adds to the adrenalin that is pumped out. It is a proven medical fact. Anyway, my point is, the ride would be for those who are total adrenalin junkies. I dont want you to think that I am trying to argue or be a jerk, I am just stating that most coaster enthusists would like that experience. To agree on something, I also love to try and beat my records, everytime I go to a park I make sure it is on a non-busy day so I can jump from ride line to ride line!

[nitro_ownz_u]

Personally, I despise fear in any shape or form.

definitly. me too

[Kraken]

I just had such a cool idea when riding Euro-Mir on NL a minute ago. What about a suspended spinning wild mouse coaster or something like the trains on Euro Mir but below the track with your legs dangling. I think that would be so much fun.

[Devin Olson]

That's an awesome idea Kraken! Spinning suspended. Now why didn't I think of that!

[HuLK]

That would be really cool, being up in the air, spinning around.
I have an idea, I was wathing a show last night on discovery channel,and it was about a tunnel they wanted to build under the water from New york to Paris, or somthing. well any way, they want to do it, and have it travel from there to paris in 53 minutes.
Its in a floating tunnel, because its to deep to put on the sea floor, so they have it floating under water, but ropes are holding it down. Well to make it there that fast, it has to reach a speed of 5,000 m.p.h. To do this, they will gradually work up to the speed in 18 minutes.
Well, they would use an electric train,but because of friction,they cant. So now they have a prototype, with magnets. It never touches the track, and that speed right now is 350 m.p.h. Max My idea was to Use that same thing, maby not that speed, but it would be cool to have a coaster like that. Maby I just think this becuase I love acceleration{one reason I love HULK} but it could slow down do loops and stuff, but accelerate and stuff

[Vater]

In response to those who dislike fear, I don't think anyone truly enjoys being afraid of anything. However, fear of a ride completely enhances the amount of thrill you experience once you are physically on the ride. The most fear I have experienced was before the first time I rode a SkyCoaster. When I actually got on the ride, my fear actually increased while we were being hauled to the top. Hanging from a cable 150 feet in the air was the most terrifying thing I'd ever experienced. Once we dropped, it was the most thrilling ride I'd experienced at that point. So, in instances like this I think fear is actually a good thing--it magnifies the adrenaline rush much more than if you had no fear before riding. In fact, I still get pretty nervous when I ride SkyCoasters, which is one reason I like them so much.

Now, back to the train topic...I'm not sure if the super train idea would work on more extreme rides, but SFGAdv uses a very long train on Blackbeard's Lost Treasure Train. Not a bad ride, either, for a family coaster.

[HuLK]

I love fear,lol, I love to be terrified. Its one way thing I look forward to, now there are not that many rides that I have been scared on, except for one. Top thrill dragster, I was a little nervous, but not really scared. The only thing that scared me, was, like vater, was a sky coaster. It was the one in florida, its 300ft tall. I was almost shaking when we got to the top.

Back on subject, that train is really long,lol. Now if they could just get a big one working like that, could reduce the wait time. I have another Idea:
Take a normal stand up coaster, split the row in half, and take the 2 seats on the left turn them sideways and same witht the other. So instead of facing forward, your facing sideways. I dunno, I think it would be cool if it could work.

[Bosox2587]

I have an idea for a ride that I think would be wicked cool. Ok, so its LIM flying coaster that launches you extremely fast, maybe 100 or so, into a tunnel...then there is an extremely huge drop. I think that would be cool. But I don't know, ask Coaster Force, he knows all!

[nitro_ownz_u]

hmm interesting. Welcome to CNET!!! red sox fan ***walks away disgustedly***

[Richierich14]

I have a train idea. it would be a floorless four across, and underneath would be an inverted 4 across use both sides of the track..
I think it would be sweet but dats just me.