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#1526 Superbatbpy

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Posted 01 January 2016 - 02:32 PM

Interesting that Kinzel wanted a B&M giga at CP, considering they originally wanted B&M for MF but B&M was reluctant to build 300ft and/or wanted to much money for the project at the time so they went with Intamin.

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Posted 01 January 2016 - 05:50 PM

I did a little bit of thinking today and something occurred to me about Cedar Point's Winter Chill Out a few years ago. Didn't the Public Relations Manager state that coasters was "In our DNA". What if the D represents a Dive coaster? It would make sense as they would try to make enthusiasts think about the future, and this might be the first clue. With the D being out of the way, this leaves the N and the A. The N could be a ploy on (I)Ndoor rollercoaster a la dark ride. This would co-align with various pleas for a new dark ride, which Cedar Fair has done before with Guardian up at Canada's Wonder Land. That leaves the last letter A, which I have yet to get down to a solid attraction. The first type that came to my mind was an Aqua coaster, but that wouldn't really make sense for me as it doesn't seem to be a park that would get an aqua coaster. That is, unless if Cedar Point puts in a water coaster instead which would make sense after a new drop box installation in the future as the Cedar Fair chain is getting a bulk purchase of White Waters and it would be highly probable that Cedar Point is up for the next installation in the near future. A could also mean an acceleration coaster, or something of the sort. It seems that launches are something that Cedar Point likes with the successes of Top Thrill Dragster and Maverick, it would be a possibility. There are still possibilities out there, but those are my conclusions coming out of the new Dive Coaster and I hope that you guys could develop more ideas from them.


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Posted 23 January 2016 - 12:43 AM

This isn't the latest image, but Valravn's Immelmann, lift, and first drop are complete.  The maneuver out of the Immelmann is shaped a bit differently than both Griffon and SheiKra.

 

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#1529 Ryan Shrout

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Posted 23 January 2016 - 02:22 PM

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Posted 23 January 2016 - 02:30 PM

Latest update from the webcam 

 

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Look how steep the exit of the Immelmann is.  That's also going to be one tightly banked ascent up to the MCBR.  I love how much this dwarfs Raptor and others.


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Posted 23 January 2016 - 04:37 PM

It definitely is looking great. I agree with the compactness of those two elements that it may feel a bit more intense than on the already existing North American dive machines. I still think this is going to be a great ride despite what a lot of other enthusiasts are saying.

Add in the new castle theme that it will have in that area of the park and it'll be great. I'm excited to see just how much that theme will play in. Maybe they will add an eventual "drop under a castle tower" after the second drop a la the tunnel on SheiKra. 


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Posted 23 January 2016 - 05:43 PM

Im hoping for a return of Fear Faire for Haunt...it only makes sense now on that midway.


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Posted 24 January 2016 - 10:07 PM

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This though.


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#1534 Bedholm

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Posted 24 January 2016 - 10:27 PM

Even though Raptor looks so small it just pops my eyes seem to just gravitate towards Raptor. Raptor's new paint just looks so good.


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#1535 Andrew Rybarczyk

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Posted 25 January 2016 - 12:48 PM

Just wait until the lights are on at night.

I started this debate on FB, but what are your thoughts on Raptor getting the new vest trains assuming it can be done. There's some debate on if the chassis is wider or just the hanging seat section. It's also questioned if the actual spine itself is different on the track. From povs it seems like there should be clearance throughout and it doesn't seem all that different in size of track. I'm also not asking for what you read on other sites because unless they have definitive proof of something being different.

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#1536 Bedholm

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Posted 25 January 2016 - 01:13 PM

I prefer the original B&M OTSRs so I wouldn't want Raptor to switch. I don't experience any headbanging or roughness on Raptor so getting a new chassis with new trains seems pointless to me. If CP decides getting new chassis for Raptor will I be pissed on but why fix the ride if its perfect the way it is.


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#1537 Superbatbpy

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Posted 29 January 2016 - 12:33 AM

I say keep Raptor as it is, there really isn't much headbanging. Mantis/Rougarou is the ride that needed the vests, made no sense why CP slapped those same thick OSTRs on Rou

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Posted 29 January 2016 - 12:44 PM

I say keep Raptor as it is, there really isn't much headbanging. Mantis/Rougarou is the ride that needed the vests, made no sense why CP slapped those same thick OSTRs on Rou

 

That probably has to do with the track gauge.  The theory is that these vest restraint trains are wider and therefore may require a larger wheel assembly and/or track gauge to accommodate that.  You can't change the rolling stock if the rolling stock won't work on that track gauge.  Clearance could potentially be an issue as well.


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#1539 Ryan Shrout

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Posted 29 January 2016 - 04:43 PM

This could be why the Incredible Hulk "renovation" essentially scrapped and re-built the entire coaster. The thought is that it will be switching to the new vest OSTRs and that a new wider gauge track was needed.


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